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M IS FOR MOUNTAIN

February 24th, 2008

Yes, that’s right, a Circle A mountain bike. I know what you’re thinking. Do you people even make mountain bikes? Do you even know how?

Well yes. Yes we do. We just don’t do it all that often.

There are some different challenges and design considerations, but if it’s a bike we like it. Especially a light hardtail like this one, for our great friend Liane.

Among the reasons I’m excited about this bike is that it’s going to be all welded, which doesn’t happen that often. As you may have seen with Carrie’s, often when we do welded road bikes we still use a lugged BB shell for a little fanciness and also for super fast jig setup. There are lugs and lugged BB shells available for mountain-style geometry, but for Liane we’re making a pretty small bike with some serious angles – the top tube is sloping at 16 degrees – so I like the flexibility that welding gives. Also it lets me size the tubing more precisely for her size & weight – in this case I’m using a 35mm Deda Zero down tube, 28.6 Zero top tube, and Zerouno externally butted seat tube:

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The chain stays are Columbus Zona, and the seat stays are Zona Road S-bend. I was able to use these and get enough tire clearance thanks to the Paragon disc brake dropouts:

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They’re very pretty and svelte and transfer the considerable forces from the disc brake down into the chainstay, and are helpful for tire clearance (clarence) because they’re long and allow the seat stays to start relatively high up.

So doing a fully welded frame (or for that matter a fillet brazed one) means no downtube, seattube, or chainstays extending into the BB shell, so all the miters have to be super tight:

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Here’s the frame fully jigged up before tacking:

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So first I just tack the front triangle in the jig, and pull it out & put it on the alignment table:

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As you can see each joint is just tacked in a couple of spots. The tubes will pull a bit toward wherever you weld first, so I look at it on the table to come up with a welding pattern that will set things straight and true. In this case, the seat tube and top tube were spot on, but the down tube was pulling a little left (go figure). To correct this, on the welding table I finished the beads on the right side of the bb shell/dt joint first. Then I put it back on the table to make sure everything is still jake, and so on. If things go my way, I won’t have to do any cold setting at all.

Then it’s back into the jig to tack on the rear triangle. Here’s a look at those sexy stays:

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And here’s the full frame, coming in at 3.5 lbs. Now it’s time for bridges, braze-ons, and paint!

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Next bike? A Circle A first – an S&S coupled bike for Kipp! Stay tuned!

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5 Responses to “M IS FOR MOUNTAIN”

  1. DanL says:

    February 24th, 2008 at 6:20 pm

    Chris. Looks so sweet!! The alignment table looks tight too! Hope the shop is warm enough these days!

  2. Apples says:

    February 24th, 2008 at 7:21 pm

    Well, I think it is pretty clear that Chris was excited to finely build another mountain bike, not to mention a welded one. I mean, this has got to be the longest blog the man has ever written.
    He doesn’t even take this much time on his coffee breaks, and that is serious!

  3. Brendan says:

    February 25th, 2008 at 8:44 am

    S bend stays are always nice.. lookin’ good!

    Oh and Adam, really man, not everyone is paid to ride around in their weasel squeezers all day. Some folks are just too busy to update their blogs every five seconds 😉

  4. Michelle says:

    March 13th, 2008 at 7:56 pm

    This blog needs more Kipp-related news.

  5. Thomass says:

    March 20th, 2008 at 11:11 pm

    More MTBs is OK with me, lugs are pretty, but I like good old welds too.
    @ # 150 is fast approachin! Congratulations!
    weasel squeezers? ha! never head that one, izzat like nuggy huggers?

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